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Up Next: Britney Manson

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Multi-talented artist, model, influencer, and provocateur, Britney Manson began her music career in 2021 with the release of several singles, including collaborations with Bill Kaulitz (Tokio Hotel) and Tubegirl.

As a trans model and influencer, Britney earned opportunities on prestigious runways, including Paris and Berlin Fashion Week, and campaigns with Italian fashion houses Valentino and Etro. Britney has a rapidly growing fanbase boasting 2.5M followers on TikTok and over 4M monthly Spotify listeners.

Britney Manson, has released her latest single ‘American Dream,’ which will be accompanied by her first-ever music video (out April 19). The single follows her viral hit ‘FASHION,’ which to date has garnered over 120M streams globally.

Drawing from her own experiences and aspirations, ‘American Dream’ channels the relentless pursuit of success. Reflecting on her journey, Britney explained: “I want to be the most mainstream from the underground artists and most underground from the mainstream ones, that’s Britney fucking Manson!”

What’s the story behind your latest single ‘American Dream’?

This song is all about the dreams of being successful! It’s all about being unstoppable, “do or die” when it comes to your goals. I wanted to create the whole song as if it was a crazy insomnia, telling you “hold me…what you are waiting for? You can get me, but you need to work so hard! I am your dream!

‘American Dream’ nods to the sounds of the late 2000s and early 2010s. Aside from Britney Spears's 'Blackout' album what are 3 things that inspire you from that era?

At first, the one and only, Tokio Hotel- Humanoid album. It’s so underrated, but it’s one of my top-3 albums so far, even the best one. Up next is “Born This Way” album by Lady Gaga, it has a crazy influence on me as an artist. Kazaky, Far East Movement, Robyn, Will.i.am, Nicola Formichetti, Gareth Pugh…there’s a lot of inspiration! Early 2010s are so underrated, so lemme bring it back xx 

You’ve walked prestigious runways and worked with top fashion houses. How does your experience in the fashion world influence your approach to music and performance?

I’m addicted to the fashion industry since I can remember myself. I mean it’s not only about the clothes- it’s a different world, and you can be whatever you want, just create your own outfit and put some glitter on! I’d like to describe my music as a fashion core- I want to bring all the fashion energy into the music world. 

If you were to send a message to new fans to know you and your music better, what would that message be?

At first- thank you for listening, and welcome to my world! And Up next-Please read my lyrics, they’re so meaningful! Read every single word, it’s there for a reason.

A moment in your career that had the most impact on your work.

The morning when I was reached by Billboard and had a Vogue article. I’ll never forget this day.

What is your most valuable piece of advice for new artists?


 Stay on your side. Do what YOU want, the time will come!

3 women who inspire you

Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Natasha Poly

What would a dream music collaboration be?

Lady Gaga and Tokio Hotel. 

3 things you can't live without in your bag

My lipgloss, cigarettes and AirPods 

What's one genre or style of music you haven't explored yet but would love to experiment with in the future?

Unpopular fact, but I’m listening to rock music during my whole life! Green Day, Linkin Park, Blind Channel, Evanescence, Quantic…it’s so unexpected, ikr :) not sure I’d like to switch my genre to rock only, but I’d love to try at least once!

Listen to American Dream

Britney Manson in social media: TikTok & Instagram

Website: https://britneymanson.com

Artist Spotlight: Salle

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Nigerian artist Salle has amassed a growing fan base with her debut track "Icon," which gained viral attention on TikTok and Spotify. Following the success of the song, Salle released her second single, 'Countdown.'

Produced by Monro and mixed by JAE5, 'Countdown' serves as a preview of Salle's upcoming debut EP. The song is a reflective exploration of impermanence and the significance of embracing the present. Salle's vocals dazzle on this track, cementing her status as an emerging talent worth keeping an eye on.

How did your viral street performance in Lagos influence your decision to pursue music professionally?

It made me grow passionate about music as I’ve neglected and never believed in my talent, after the video went viral I Dre so much strength from everyone who supported me and believed in me.

What 1 valuable lesson have you learned as an emerging artist?

One valuable lesson I’ve learned as an artist is not to acknowledge any kind of pressure whatsoever. It’s me versus me and I’m doing my best to be the best version of myself.

What is your top advice for new music artists 

Be yourself, acknowledge every feeling and every experience you may meet positive or negative and in all improve your craft it’s the only thing that makes us artists.

If you could collaborate with any artist, who would it be and why?

I’d love to collaborate with lots of amazing artist but since I have to pick one off my list it’ll be “Rema” because of his mysterious tune that I enjoy.

Can you share a favorite moment from your journey in the music industry so far?

A favorite moment from my journey in the music industry so far will be the when I put out “ICON” it was the most liberating and remarkable so far.

What are your goals for the future as you continue to pursue your music career?

My goal for the future is to keep improving in my sound and in all aspect of my life.

3 things I can’t live without in my bag

Sunglasses, perfume and cash.

Artist Spotlight: Kelly Moran

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Kelly Moran, shot by Brandon Bowen

New York-based composer and producer Kelly Moran has spent the past decade challenging traditional piano conventions with an experimental approach.

Moran has collaborated with artists such as Oneohtrix Point Never and FKA Twigs, composing for classical musician Margaret Leng Tan and working with contemporaries like Kelsey Lu and Yves Tumor. Her solo albums, "Bloodroot" and "Ultraviolet," have explored extended piano techniques and received critical acclaim across various genres.

Her upcoming album, "Moves in the Field," moves away from prepared piano techniques and instead focuses on a more experimental use of the instrument, similar to her previous work on "Ultraviolet."

The inspiration for "Moves in the Field" originated from Moran's experience composing a piano duet with Missy Mazzoli in early 2020. During this collaboration, Yamaha Music loaned her a Disklavier—a state-of-the-art player piano, capable of surpassing human capabilities in composition.

During the pandemic, Moran began composing with the Disklavier as her duet partner in isolation. The duets between Moran and the Yamaha Disklavier embody her pursuit of both technical precision and emotional resonance, creating an interplay between human performance and the Disklavier's automation, resulting in multi-layered compositions.

Influenced by both classical minimalism and contemporary electronic music, "Moves in the Field" serves as a bridge between two distinct musical worlds. Mixed and recorded by Dan Bora (known for his collaborations with Philip Glass), and mastered by Joshua Eustis of Telefon Tel Aviv, the album exemplifies Moran's bold artistic vision and technical prowess.

"Moves in the Field" marks a departure from Moran's previous works, positioning her in a compositional league of her own. The album explores themes of humanity versus technology and the interplay between technicality and musicality. Released under Warp Records, it firmly establishes Kelly Moran as a leading figure in modern music.

What sparked your transition from prepared piano to the Disklavier piano, and how did it inspire the new direction for "Moves in the Field"?

My last record was music for prepared piano and electronics that was based heavily in improvisation. When I set out to make a new record, I intended to make another album exploring prepared piano, but this time with more repetitive song structures and loop-based grooves to evolve the rhythmic feel of the previous record. All the music from Ultraviolet was so loose and unmetered, and I wanted to create music people could dance to. But unfortunately after I began writing the record in this direction, I became bored and uninspired by the prepared piano because the pandemic hit. I needed fresh inspiration to feel motivated, and working with the familiar sound of the prepared piano wasn’t doing it for me.

Around this time, Yamaha loaned me a disklavier player piano, and it provided a new way for me to compose and interact with the piano. I suddenly had a flood of new ideas that I wanted to explore, and it was then when I decided to abandon the prepared piano music and head in a fresh direction. 

The album title draws a connection to skating rudiments. How does this thematic element tie into the music and what role did the Disklavier play in bringing these movements to life?

I started figure skating as a hobby a few years ago, and all skaters learn basic patterns to master control over your blade edge. These patterns are called Moves in the Field, as the ice rink is often referred to as the field. You’re supposed to practice small simple patterns so you can build up your skills to achieve more intricate, difficult moves. I saw a lot of parallels in the process of learning to skate and learning how to play music - moves in the field are like scales and arpeggios for musicians.

When I started working with the disklavier, I would often record a simple pattern and then complicate it by adding layers, so it reminded me a lot of the practice of building up skating skills so you can skate more difficult elements.

How did you use the Disklavier in these compositions?

A Disklavier is a player piano that allows you to record your performance and have the piano play it back with expressive and dynamic accuracy. It uses an advanced system of MIDI to translate the touch of a pianist to MIDI information and have the playback sound identical to the performance that was played into it.

One of my favorite aspects of working with this piano is being able to listen to my music being played on the piano from the listener’s perspective. As a pianist, I can be very emotional and get swept up in the music I’m playing because it feels so good physically. But this doesn’t always sound the best from the listener’s perspective - some songs need more sensitivity and control, and I wouldn’t realize this if I weren’t able to listen back to my playing the way the disklavier plays back my performances. 

Did you encounter any challenges or revelations during the compositional process?

When working with a player piano, it’s very tempting to want to over-correct in the editing process. You have the ability to record a take and then delete all your wrong notes, or correct your dynamics. But the more you edit your playing, the less human it sounds, and I had to find a middle ground between perfection and expression.

Moves in the Field seems to bridge classical minimalism with modernized and synthesized textures found in electronic music. How did you balance these influences?

I like to write a lot of dancey patterns that might be found in techno or other dance music - I was working a lot with my synth arpeggiator on early versions of the music. It was fun sending these MIDI patterns to an acoustic piano because it’s the kind of music I would never physically play on the piano, but still sounds very satisfying to listen to. I used a sub bass as the only non-piano sound on the album just to add a bit of weight to the low end because I wanted to keep the focus on the purity of the acoustic piano sound.

The album is mixed and recorded by Dan Bora, known as Philip Glass' sound engineer. How did this collaboration impact the overall sound of Moves in the Field?

Philip Glass has been a huge inspiration for me as a composer and his music always sounds incredible. Because this record is more reliant on the acoustic piano sound and less on electronic elements (than a low of my past works) I wanted to try to work with an engineer who was very experienced in mixing classical music. Dan was extremely thorough and mathematical in his mixing, which is very different from my approach, but I learned so much from him about all the little ways you can make a piano sound better on a recording!

Kelly Moran, shot by Brandon Bowen

Does this album mark a departure from your previous works, defining a new sound? 

It doesn’t feel like a total departure to me, honestly. I’ve made a lot of records and most of them exist in their own unique sound world. This record felt like going back to my roots as a pianist, because piano was the first instrument I ever learned and so much of my experience as a composer has been about combining the piano with other sounds, or manipulating its sound in some way. I tried to restrain myself in some way by working only with the acoustic, natural sound of the piano as the main basis for the pieces, instead of relying on electronic or synthesized sounds.

As a musician, do you draw inspiration from other genres?

I listen to a lot of music, and most of it is not in the vein of music I write. I think I get most of my inspiration from artists who make music completely different to what I make. 

How do you tap into your creativity on particularly tough days?

Get out of your house, get your body moving. I like going on runs to clear my head and reset my energy. Make contact with a friend if you’ve been home alone all day. Even though I make most of my music alone, I don’t recommend letting yourself get too isolated from the world. It’s important to connect with other people and find purpose outside of your own creative practice.

What’s your top advice for artists who want to enter this industry?

In order to pursue music for a living, it has to be your main passion. I never allowed myself to entertain the possibility of doing anything but music for a living because I knew I would be miserable. You have to be in it for the right reasons.


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Moves in the Field is out now on Warp Records

Up Next: Kito

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Australian-born, LA-based producer, DJ, and songwriter Kito has steadily ascended in electronic, indie, and pop genres for over a decade.

Her notable collaborations include working with Skrillex and Aluna on 'Inhale Exhale' from Skrillex's Grammy-nominated album, QUEST FOR FIRE (Best Dance/Electronic Album) and a Grimes endorsed official release of 'Gold Touch,' marking Kito's first AI-generated vocal track.

Kito’s first official release came through Skream’s label Disfigured Dubs, with future releases on Mad Decent, Ed Banger, and Astralwerks.

Producing for a range of artists including Banks, Jeremih, ZHU, Channel Tres, Hudson Mohawke, Jorja Smith, and Fletcher, whom she received a Gold Record for her work on ‘Bitter’, Kito’s work has also landed her performances for Luxury brands like Gucci and Fendi. 

In 2024, Kito is returning to Mad Decent for upcoming solo releases and collaborations set for spring and summer, reflecting her London club scene upbringing.

"COLD TOUCH" released in 2023 featured A.I.-generated vocals from Grimes. What excites you about the intersection of AI and artistic expression?

The thing that excites me the most is the possibilities of cutting out tedious parts of the creative process. I’m not so excited about using AI to come with ideas - more about leveraging it as a tool to help me see my ideas through. 

As an artist who has worked across various labels, what insights can you share about getting in touch with record labels?

I’m not entirely sure if I have any secret tips here! I think labels are less and less important for artists starting out. For me, I had my heart set on a few labels to begin with and sent demos through social media. In my opinion, the best way to get a labels attention is to create a world with your music and audience yourself. 

Share a memorable behind-the-scenes moment while working on a collaborative project

I have so many! Doing a writing camp at Shangri La was pretty memorable. Just knowing so many amazing albums were made in the space we were working felt special. 

3 women who inspire you

My mum and my sisters.

Tips for finding your creativity on a tough day

Get outside and move your body! Or tap in a friend to share the burden of breaking through a block on your own. 

Your top advice for young people wanting to become music producers/singer-songwriters etc.

Have fun, and perhaps don’t quit your day job until you have to? I know that once I had to make money from music, it did limit my creativity for a little bit but once I found financial stability it opened up my creativity again as I felt less afraid to take risks. 

What's your favorite and least favorite thing about making music?

Favourite thing is the buzz you get when you make something you love with people you love, and least favourite thing is the self doubt. 

3 things you can't live without in your bag

paw paw ointment because I’m Australian, orange blossom perfume, a little chocolate treat 

An artist or album that's changed your life

Burial changed my life. I may not have started making music if it wasn’t for Burial.

Describe your morning routine

I love to get outside and get a coffee! 

Kito will be debuting her new project IS U IS U with Chrome Sparks with their first single 'All I Need' out on March 27th via Mad Decent.

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Music Insider: Zamaera

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Malaysian artist Zamaera is a household name in Southeast Asian music, navigating an 11-year career that transitioned from TV hosting to music. She’s a skilled storyteller who continues to break barriers and recently organized Malaysia's inaugural all-female music festival, 'Queendom Fest' dedicated to spotlighting and empowering talent in the industry.

Zamaera marked her solo debut with the grime-inspired single 'Helly Kelly' in 2017 - featured alongside Malaysia’s hip-hop icon Joe Flizzow and has been independent since 2021. Her music skills flourished in a male-dominated scene, where she had to break boundaries and prove herself.

Her new track 'Big Fish' features Kuala Lumpur-based DJ/producer Daaliah, is influenced by hip-hop, pop, garage, and soul, and reflects Zamaera's desire to break free from her artistic constraints.

The song originated from a candid conversation with Daaliah in July 2023, expressing her feeling of being a 'big fish in a small pond' and her aspiration to step outside her comfort zone. 'Big Fish' is out now through Zamaera’s ‘Mean Malaya Entertainment’.

Tell us more about your collaboration with Daaliah on Big Fish.

‘Big Fish’ is me stepping out of my comfort zone and I really love this new venture. It’s a very different kind of song that I wouldn’t normally do, because I predominantly work on Hip Hop and R&B music (but I've always loved electronic and I’ve always loved House Music and Techno). My relationship with Daaliah is that we were the only German speaking artists in Malaysia and it kind of grew from there. We've known each other since 2019 and made some demos together but never really had the chance to put something out.

I met up with him last year and we had this conversation about how we were doing (just catching up) and I told him in my exact words “I felt like a big fish in a small pond”. That exact sentence was what sparked the idea.

We went to Daaliah’s studio and it was just the right vibe, the right energy as Daaliah had just come back from a tour in Europe and he was really inspired by Garage Music and different types of sounds (that in Malaysia, producers won't particularly look or touch on).

You had a 30 minute time crunch when creating “Big Fish”. How did you tap into creativity and stay focused under pressure?

Honestly for this project, I did not feel like there was any pressure involved just because everything felt so seamless and natural; from the moment that we were talking, to us deciding that we were going to make a song. It really felt like it was exactly what it needed to be. Even though there was this “time crunch”, we were using it as a way to to be even more creative. The time crunch helped us find exactly what we wanted.

It took out that deciding factor, that time to think and decide whether we wanted something “in this way or that way”. For example, there is a sound that you hear (the piano) that’s a sample by an amazing producer and I was writing at the back (coming with the melody) while Daaliah was producing and it just came together. I think the pressure on the time was a great thing for us.

As an independent artist, how do you think the independent music scene in Malaysia has grown?

I do feel that independent music and independent artists have taken a step forward hugely - all thanks to accessibility and information coming via YouTube videos, courses, social media etc. A lot of people understand now that we don't need to rely on traditional mediums such as radio or TV to get to the point of visibility. We can always use socials and also other forms of content for us to showcase our creativity.

Artists are now pivoting to a more independent style that is giving us the freedom and leeway to really be fully and creatively ourselves.

I do feel that a lot of independent artists (such as myself) lean towards working with brands. For example, with Big Fish and our music video premiere party, we got the chance to work with a really amazing global brand (they unearth and uplift independent artists such as myself and Daaliah and graffiti artists in Malaysia).

Can you share a memorable moment from your music career

I would say that the biggest one or the most recent one for me was organising my very first all female music festival. Throughout all my years of being a musician I had never ever organised an event for more than 5 - 10 artists (let alone 15 women and creatives) with the idea of building a strong community and platform to really uplift and showcase their talent in Malaysia.

After 11 years of doing this work, I realised we have all this amazing talent which was not reflected in the live performance space in Malaysia (and I thought that was really necessary). That's one of the most memorable things. I have a lot more, but then this conversation might never end!

What are your goals for ‘Queendom Fest’ in 2024?

My goal is to take everything I’ve learned from the first edition (the feedback, the critique etc) and really look into how we can better manage the festival. As an artist, I tend to look at things more on the artistic side (e.g. whether the artists are going to have a great time performing or how the lighting and the visuals, the music and the sound will be), but there's also this very important aspect which is the management of behind the scenes (running with your project manager, the vendors, the production team, and stuff like that).

I really want to take everything that I've learned and make it bigger, make it better. And of course I want to have more way more artists for 2024 and also hopefully international acts as well. So stay tuned.

What's your least favorite thing about making music?

That's actually quite an easy question to answer. My least favourite thing about making music is that I do not know how to play all of the instruments and that really frustrates me sometimes.

I know that you can learn stuff (make sounds on e.g. Logic or any digital audio workstation) but I feel like I always am so hard on myself because I feel like “oh my gosh, if I just knew how to play the violin, or if I just knew how to play the cello”. It stops me from actually going out and learn.

Thinking that “I can only play the piano or the guitar” makes me feel like it's not enough. I want to be able to do more but I have to take a little step back and chill. You can’t play everything but you can collaborate with so many amazing, talented people out there. So if you play the cello, you know who to call.. (call me, I'm gonna work with you).

What is a valuable piece of advice for an artist that wants to enter your industry?

You should just not think and do it. A lot of people might be worried about what other people might think because of maybe e.g. a taboo that surrounds your passions. I don't think this is only the case with music, it goes with pretty much with anything you want to achieve in your life.

Stopping yourself because of what other people might think and not taking a chance on doing what you love could be one of the biggest regrets.

Don't think about what other people think of you (because people are going to say something anyway, so you might as well just do what you love). Let the music be your life.

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Artist Spotlight: Belle Chen

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Belle Chen is a pianist and composer that skillfully blends piano melodies with synths, creating a seamless fusion of acoustic and electronic music.

Belle released the single 'Three Birds', as a preview of her upcoming album, "Ravel In The Forest," set to be released on February 16, 2024, through Platoon. The album, inspired by nature and created as an imaginative world through music, invites listeners on a journey filled with richly cinematic, ethereal compositions.

The album's production involves a collaboration with the Budapest Art Orchestra in tracks like 'Closer' and 'Moonrise,' showcasing Belle's diverse and intriguing approach to music creation. 'Ravel In The Forest' defies categorization, providing a refreshing experience that reconnects audiences with nature, music, and introspection.

Your new album, 'Ravel In The Forest,' takes listeners on a journey through nature and imagination. Can you share more about the inspiration behind it?

My new album Ravel In The Forest was inspired by the feeling of losing oneself in your imagination while being in nature. So in this album, you’ll hear textures and colors and sounds that were inspired by the movements and the colous of the flora and fauna found in forests.

Could you provide some insights into your classical training and its influence on your work, particularly when blending contemporary and electronic music? How did your classical background play a role in shaping the sound of this album?

My classical training is like the foundation that I build my own music language upon. And for me, it's like a big dictionary that I can draw words from to tell my own musical story. In this particular album (Ravel in the Forest), I draw inspirations from the approaches of Impressionist composers such as Maurice Ravel, and how they evoke certain feelings through the use of colors, light and shade and combining that approach with the technology that we have today, through the use of synths and production technique to create this whimsical, imaginative world that's this new album.

Making music for me is a very intuitive process. I'm always guided by the end feeling of what I want to create for the listeners. And in this journey to get there I would explore the different options and textures and colors that's available, and are the most appropriate to create this end feeling. Sometimes I find it through classical approach and sometimes I find it through more electronica kind of approach. Sometimes it's a hybrid, so it's never really the same.

The concept of 'Ravel In The Forest' seems deeply connected to nature and introspection. How do you believe music can serve as a medium for self-reflection and connection to the world around us?

For me, music is a really important medium for self reflection and introspection, because I think it creates this pocket of time and space to be really with yourself, and be really honest with how you're feeling and seeing the world. And in a way, music can also be a shared experience.

When a musician shares a piece of music with a world, we're actually sharing a part of how we see the world and our perspective as well.

And when two people share what they're listening to is similar; they're sharing how they see the world. It is a moment and a medium for connection, as well as self reflection.

As an artist who has performed globally, can you share a memorable moment from your performances at venues like the Royal Albert Hall’s Steinway Series and the National Theatre of Korea?

My most memorable moments when I'm performing happens when I feel like I'm in sync with the audience. You can feel the energy coming back in and I feel like we're on a journey together. And I feel like I'm getting to know them on a very deep and personal level. And so those are the most fun and memorable moments for me.

Your journey includes being recognized as an Associate of the Royal Academy of Music in London and being a Yamaha artist. How have these affiliations influenced your growth as a musician?

I'm hugely grateful for the affiliations. I think both the academy and Yamaha has played such important roles in my musical DNA and in my journey so far, and to be able to partner with Yamaha on special projects especially has made a big difference.

What does your morning routine look like?

My morning routines are usually done in silence and solitude. That's where I think most clearly and my best and usually that involves meditation, reading, journaling, and then plotting up my day with a good cup of coffee before getting started.

Your tips for finding your creativity on a tough day

So when I'm having a tough day, I usually time box an hour or so to create as freely as possible. And usually that involves sitting in front of the piano and improvising and recording that on the voice memo. I think it is done without any intention, without any pressure. And then I'll step away go for a walk around the block clear my mind. And usually on these days I try to be gentle with myself and kind with myself, because some things just take time and sometimes it takes longer, and that's okay to take longer.

Artist Spotlight: Samantha Urbani

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Samantha Urbani is the artist behind the debut LP "Showing Up." From her rebellious roots in Mystic, Connecticut, to conquering Brooklyn's DIY scene with Friends in 2010, Samantha's journey is anything but ordinary.

After her old group “Friends” disbanded in 2013, Samantha chose collaboration over solo stardom, joining “Blood Orange” and diving into various projects. Tragedy struck in 2018 with the loss of close friend and producer Sam Mehran, propelling her into a six-month hiatus.

Nick Weiss, aka Nightfeelings, who pulled her back into music and sparked the creative process for "Showing Up."Co-produced by Samantha and Weiss, the album captures her spontaneous spirit. With contributions from friends like Rostam Batmanglij and Stuart Matthewman, it's a celebration of resilience and creative resurgence.

Want do you want people to get out of your new album ‘Showing Up”?

“Showing Up” that just came out is the health and the power of multiple feelings coexisting at once. There are lyrics and movements and music about a lot of really hard things. Heartbreak and alienation and mental health stuff and really close friends and family dying. And all of that is on this album. But on first listen, you might not know because a lot of it has very sick grooves. And a lot of it is quite danceable. And that was all very intentional. Because I think when you mute multiple feelings and truths existing at once is something that is really powerful to embrace. I think I was I went through a lot of hard things before the making of this album.

And for a while I was writing a lot of songs that really sounded sad. And I knew that that wasn't the way that I wanted to present these experiences. I wanted to find a way to make music that felt cathartic and joyful, and connective and energetic, almost like the breakthrough of celebrating survival through those things versus sitting in the pain of those things. I think that you can still honour the pain of those things. Feeling like a breakthrough or a sense of survival. I want this record to be the upbeat companion for anybody who's having a fucking hard time and anybody who's experiencing grief. Anybody who's had a really close friend leave, you know, this this existence. I want the record to be a companion that feels cathartic and feels optimistic, but also is like a witness to those kinds of experiences.

What’s your top advice to songwriters?

First of all, I think that we need to take these titles off of a pedestal, you don't need to think about yourself as an “aspiring songwriter”, or an aspiring artist, you are an artist, you are a songwriter. Trust your instincts, get in touch with that thread of unique insight and perspective that you have versus being a student, of how other people do their thing. I also always tell people not to let what kind of equipment or education, they have access to stop them from getting ideas down. I talk to a lot of people who are like, Oh, I have ideas for songs. But I don't play a lot of instruments. I don't know how to make a demo. I’m not where I want to be as a producer or something.

Don't let those ideas get away, because you think that they need to be represented more professionally or traditionally. I think that making weird little voice memos, kind of like… scrappy demos, in GarageBand, or whatever you have often is way more interesting and more authentic and cool than if you wait and find an engineer or somebody to help you do it in what you might think is the right way.

Don't let a lack of equipment or knowledge stop you from getting ideas down. Or make you think that your ideas aren't real, because you're not like “a real musician”, or there's something. I think a lot of stuff that's done really properly or traditionally can be boring. So yeah, mess around with whatever it is that you have.

Everybody who has an iPhone, or a MacBook has GarageBand on their phone, or laptop. That's actually how I started making demos for my old band. I had a lot of vocal ideas and melodies. I think if I had waited to do it ‘the right way’, I don't know if I would have ever done it. I started just recording all my vocal ideas to drum loops. And I had ideas for baselines, and I would just sing them and pitch them down. And I had ideas for synth lines, and I'd sing them and pitch them up.

I was a college student in a shitty small bedroom in New York doing that, and it turned into a successful band. So I always try to tell people not to look down on their ideas, because they think that they're not like a real musician. What the fuck does that mean? What does it mean? Just make stuff the same way that you can pick up a pencil on a piece of paper and draw. Pick up whatever you have and get your idea down. And if you want to collaborate with other people on it. That's awesome. I think it's like a very fun, cool, strong thing to do to find your collaborators. But it's great to approach them with a representation of what you want to make. So don't be scared to to make things from scratch and do things in your homemade way.

What has been the most rewarding part of my journey so far?

It's crazy, amazing, beautiful when you travel to parts of the world that you've never been to before, and you play a show, and there are people in the audience singing words that you made up in your bedroom. That is an incredible feeling, especially when those people are not only just reciting them back to you, it's like, they're this mirror, where the emotional thing that you were feeling that you put into words is actually something amazing. As a musician or a writer, that's definitely just seeing things translate and feeling that maybe you could do that for people in the same way that your favourite musicians have done that for you throughout your life.

But as far as my music journey at large, I have loved just time going by and getting a little bit older and being able to sort of be like a big sister figure to people who are at the age that I was when I started making music, any kind of like professional sense.People feel they're supposed to be anxious about getting older or time going by but to me, it's something that is so valuable and beautiful and can't be faked. It can't be rushed.

Having a length of experience that continues and grows is so special to me and being able to realise that I want to pursue more avenues than just making music but also working in music as I did a year I worked for an agile at. I worked for a year as an adjunct professor at NYU mentoring songwriting and production students. And now I work as an A&R at Secretly Group, discovering artists, developing artists, helping advocate for artists on the inside of a company like that. Just finding ways that it feels all of my experience matters good and bad. All the bad experiences that I had throughout my 20s I feel I've found a way to channel those things to really mean something for other people.

Sometimes in the moment, when things are either going good or bad, it's hard to see the value in them and it does take time for things to review reveal sort of their, their meaning or their value. Being able to sort of be like a shoulder and a voice of reason and a big sister and a mentor or whatever to people now is so fun and valuable to me. I wish I had somebody like that when I was younger. To be able to be a support system for other people is amazing.

Things you can't live without in your bag.

  1. A notebook. But not a regular notebook. It has to be a notebook that is like a monthly calendar kind of thing for the year because I really don't do well with Google Calendar. Only remember that I have to do things if I break them down. And also lyrics and stuff like that. I think I'm a lot more creative when there's some tactility to my actual writing and you can physically cross things out or you can kind of keep building by adding words to things. I just feel like there's a tactility to words themselves even the sounds that words make and especially as singers, vocalist, lyricist, whatever. There can be a disconnect in the tactility of words, if you're typing them. You can actually feel the shape of words when you're writing out letters in the same way that you can feel the shape of them in your mouth. That makes sense. No, that's crazy.

  2. What else do I like to have in my bag? I also shades because sometimes you need to be incognito. I often, go to coffee places or get food by myself. You have to kind of be in your own little forcefield world. So shades for sure.

  3. My phone? I hate to say it but how else are we going to record voice memos. I did use to have a cassette recorder and maybe that's cooler. I do like to talk about anti social media. It's nice to have mediums of recording that will also distract you with all the other bullshit that's on your phone.

  4. But maybe most importantly; two types of cards, a regular classic deck of cards, and a deck of monopoly deal. I've been playing cards, especially in the morning with another person. It’s a very centering thing that just feels really meditative. I used to use tarot cards a lot, but now I like to play Monopoly deal. I highly recommend it as something that’s slightly escapist, but not as bad as sprawling bad things.

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Up Next: MEYY

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In this month's edition of 'Up Next’ (our series showcasing rising talent), we're excited to feature London-based Belgian-Korean alt-pop artist MEYY, whose ethereal vocals and soundscapes redefine R&B and progressive pop. MEYY infuses creative songwriting with imaginative aesthetic references, shaping a musical narrative that calls listeners into a glossy digital universe.

MEYY joined forces with object blue on ‘Shut Up’, the result of an inspiring music writing camp organised by Platoon’s She Runs The Board, shesaid.so and ESEA Music, the community for the UK’s East and South East Asian music industry. Shining a light on the ESEA music community and female producers, songwriters & engineers in the industry, it’s a project close to the artist’s hearts.

‘Shut Up’ draws on a myriad of influences from RnB, soul, pop, UK bass, dubstep and techno, which melds seamlessly over MEYY’s sultry delivery and object blue’s deft inspired production, all the while maintaining an authentic DIY feel. London based Belgian-Korean alt-pop star MEYY joined fellow London based / Beijing raised DJ / producer object blue for a 3 day writing camp over Summer and everything just clicked.

MEYY said:

“Working with object blue was incredible. She’s so effortlessly talented and sharp and I think her deep affection and love for music is felt so thoroughly in everything she makes.” object blue: “It’s really nice to work with someone who has a different skillset.

‘Shut Up’ is an ode to all the heartbreakers trying to stand tall in their innocence. To all the actors and actresses who are, consciously or subconsciously, holding up the mirror while blowing smoke into your bedroom. A sleazy lullaby for a fever dream. I love that this song has tragedy and despair as well as sassy and silly bits. I think both parts are really important.”

This coming together of minds was made possible through Platoon’s ’She Runs The Boards’ music writing camp in partnership with ESEA Music and shesaid.so.

For this brand new program, ESEA Music worked with Platoon to curate and A&R the artists’ group sessions that took place across 3 full days at Platoon’s new state of the art Platoon 7 Studios over in Tileyard London. The aim was to shine a light on the ESEA Music community and to increase the number and visibility of female producers, songwriters & engineers in the industry. These sessions resulted in 2 brilliant singles from each of the artist groups, the first of which is MEYY x object blue’s ’Shut Up’.

Can you share a bit about the collaborative process behind 'Shut Up'?

Making ‘Shut Up’ was so much fun - shout out to ESAE community and Platoon for setting up this camp. Very talented Asian women making music was sick. object blue and I just got along so well. We laughed so much, talked so much shit and obviously we made music. This is my ideal setup for life in general.

The song also feels so intimate, so honest and close to us because we made it in two days and then a couple of months later it was released, which is something I've never done before. That was a cool experiment. For me it was nice to go back into the ease of things and music. So yeah making ‘Shut Up’ was super cool.

What's your top advice for young people wanting to become music producers/singer-songwriters?

So my advice for people that are just starting out would be to just push the button. I think that because of the internet we are so aware of all the information that's out there and all the plugins or all the skills that may or may not be required anything can be quite overwhelming, sometimes even paralysing. I feel sometimes we think that we need to know and be prepared very well before we want to do something like that because we don't want to do something and then suck at it.

The point is to not think and obviously begin where there's this gap in between of what you want or what you can do, because you don't have all the skills yet to translate it. And that can be really struggle. But you will become better and should try and not focus too much on becoming better anyway. I think consciously or subconsciously you'll start making decisions that you wouldn't make if you would just go at your first incentive. At the core of it music should be really easy and really fun. to make and really important. So yeah, yeah, I would just say, push the button.

What influences your work the most? Science, dancing or music? Or anything else?

I don't know if anything really very explicitly influenced something else. I started singing before I started dancing, I've been singing since I was really really small. I think everything stems from the same place and intertwined in some ways. But it's not clear for me if something influenced me very suddenly. I think in general, though, everything I do, I make it very big in my head, I'm very dramatic in that sense. Everything feels really important for me and I kind of do that with everything.

MEYY joined forces with object blue on ‘Shut Up’, the result of an inspiring music writing camp organised by Platoon’s She Runs The Board, shesaid.so and ESEA Music, the community for the UK’s East and South East Asian music industry. Shining a light on the ESEA music community and female producers, songwriters & engineers in the industry, it’s a project close to the artist’s hearts.

MEYY has been featured on Wonderland, Dazed, Notion, Mixmag, DMY, BBC Radio 1’s Future Artists with Jack Saunders and more.

Object Blue can be seen on DJ Mag, Mixmag, RA, FACT, i-D, Pitchfork, The Face, BBC Radio 1 Annie Nightingale and more.

shesaid.so LA Radio on Dublab: Gemma Lacey

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For this month's shesaid.so LA radio at Dublab Elyn Kazarian's guest will be Gemma Lacey.

Gemma Lacey is a UK-born writer and journalist currently based in LA. She has written for print and online publications since 2003 and specializes in one-on-one artist profiles. Her focus is always to celebrate the sense of wonder and connections that arts and culture provide us all and showcase it to a broader audience.

Since 2013 she's been an editor and contributor at PUSS PUSS Magazine and is currently executive editor at MARVIN Magazine, founded by Marvin Jarrettt founder of Nylon and Raygun magazines.

Some of her favourite interviews to date include Cat Power, Eartheater, and  Thundercat. She's also working on a book," "Everything I've Learned Talking to Artists for Over 20 Years" and is currently working on a publishing deal.

Also, be sure to tune in for Elyn’s music selections.

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Music Insider: Halina Rice

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Halina Rice is an electronic musician and AV artist creating emotive electronic music ranging from evocative soundscapes to beat-driven tracks.

Her live shows have been described as “part-rave, part art-happening” taking audiences from immersive experience to dance-inspired tracks.

With her last album ELISION released in 2022 to critical acclaim, her music has been described as “sublime and infectious” by Electronic Sound magazine and as “modern electronic music at its finest” by Headphone Commute.

As Rice states “my main focus is to present compelling, emotive and innovative music and visuals in order to move the audience outside of their day to day experience. I want people to come away from the shows feel invigorated and inspired.

Read our interview to discover more about Halina’s work and insights.

As an artist who aims to move the audience outside of their day to day experience, which emotions or reactions do you hope your music and visuals evoke in your listeners?

When I think about what I'm trying to evoke in listeners, I'm not really very prescriptive about it because I think everyone one kind of comes with their own experiences and things will resonate or they will react in different ways depending on their own individual experience.

But what I tend to find is that if there's something that I create musically or something that I create working with one of the visual designers, if something resonates with us or kind of excites us, then that's often going to create a reaction in the audience as well. So we tend to go for stuff that makes us feel something. I think it's a really individual way that people react to the events.

How do you prepare for large scale events?

For instance, I had a show at Village Underground on October 3rd. In that instance, it's just mainly about the technical side. Planning is probably the most important way that I prepare because in my shows I'm running the audio, the visual jewels and quite a large proportion of the lighting. It's making sure that I've done all the relevant site checks and understand what the venue capabilities are and checking that my setup is going to interact with their setup OK. Also, that I'm completely in line with the promoter for all the details about the event.

Then another aspect is when I run spatial sounds. In some gigs, I'm running multi speaker systems with sound coming all around the audience. I have a show coming up at Ade on Thursday, October. The 19th at a venue called The Other Side, which has just had a 14.1.5 speaker system installed.

And in that instance, there's a little bit extra planning, which is that you need to receive their speaker layout in order to be able to reprogram your sound so that it's coming out into the formation of speakers in their venue. So it's really just about planning and lots today.

What is the central theme or concept that ties all the tracks on your upcoming EP New Basis together? How did this theme influence your creative process while working on the project?

I think possibly for New Basis, the creative theme is something about contradictions. There's a kind of a clash of classical and more experimental forms.

Definitely I created chord structures that have quite a sort of long, almost recognizable contemporary classical structure, but then they would be presented in a sort of electronic instrumentation and I never really wanted those shapes to be 100% recognizable. Things twist and change throughout and there are builds of distortion. Then we kind of reflected that in the creative process.

Working with visual designer Frany Anthony, we actually used scans, 3D scans of natural objects. But then we kind of took those, recolored them and twisted and distorted them so that the visuals were matching the music. Organic and inorganic juxtaposition is what lied through the whole creative thinking behind the EP.

How do you stay inspired and innovative in your music and visual art?

One of the ways that I'd stay inspired is to go and see other people's shows, works or art presentations. For instance, there's a venue in London called Eclectic which is just in Waterloo and it's non profit making so they'll platform quite experimental ideas, students, etc who are just sort of trying things in quite a raw format. And that's really interesting because it can kind of trigger ideas or developments from that. And I'm lucky enough to also play at audiovisual festivals. I was at MUTEK in Montreal a few weeks ago and there was just a huge number of fantastic presentations from around the world.

Sometimes it's seeing other people's work but also just being in venues. For instance, being in a dome projection venue and just thinking this is really interesting and what would I do in this space? So yeah, just sort of getting out and about and having a bit of reflective time while you're absorbing other audience of visual events and you.

What advice would you give to emerging electronic artists?

The advice I'd give to emerging electronic artists is to connect with other like minded people in your area. If there are meetups of electronic, electronic or AV groups, it's a really great way just to share information and learn. Maybe you're going to collaborate or work with a few people that you meet there. And also, in a lot of these groups you're just performing maybe for other people in the group. It can be a really non judgmental place for you to trial before you take that in front of a ticketed audience, for instance.

And I think also it's great to feel like you're connected to a wider community because it can be quite an isolating thing to do. It's good to be able to call on other people as you solve production queries, as you work your way through what the right kind of format and setup is for you.

Halina’s EP NEW BASIS was released on 29th September via AWAL and is available through all streaming platforms.

Catch Halina Rice live at Rescue Rooms in Nottingham on October 12th, and Summerhall in Edinburgh on November 17th.

Halina is also part of the official programme at ADE 2023 this year performing a spatial audio and visual live set at The Other Side on Thursday 19th October, presented in L-ISA hyperreal sound by L-Acoustics.

shesaid.so Mix 050: Bae Blade

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The shesaid.so mix series aims to spotlight the diverse artists within our community. We’re committed to championing underrepresented voices from around the world, focusing on female, non-binary, trans and queer individuals. Our monthly mix series allows our contributing selectors to showcase their unique backgrounds and inspirations by creating exclusive, 30-minute live recorded soundscapes.

This month, we have the German DJ/producer Bae Blade, whose unique, genre-blending sound - a modern style that oscillates between electro, breaks, house, and techno with hip-hop influences - has garnered her a fervent following in the underground.

With a background in photography and only recently starting music during the lockdown in 2020, Bae Blade is a multifaceted artist whose intuitive skills have led her to become a regular at Berlin’s renowned HÖR radio station, a resident at RINSE FM, and an internationally touring DJ.

On the heels of these accomplishments, released her EP Mutual Pleasure earlier this month - a full-on onslaught of hard-edged, hyperfast techno/breakbeat/trance spiked with catchy hooks from other genres.

What inspired you to start the Bae Blade project during lockdown?

During the lockdown, I finally had the time to dedicate myself to projects I had envisioned for a while. The scene in North Rhine-Westphalia, where I'm from, felt too monotonous, and I wanted to play music that diverged from techno, allowing for more hip movement and incorporating more vocals.

How would you compare German electronic music culture to scenes from other countries?

It's a tough question and depends on where you are. I can only speak from the region I come from. In the western part of Germany, it's slowly starting to open up to other genres besides techno. In Berlin, where it's a major hub, it's a different story. I think it depends on the area, I believe there isn't just that one scene in Germany.

You have a background as a music photographer- do you feel like there were skills you picked up in photography that you've transferred over to making music?

It doesn't always have to be the most expensive equipment to achieve fantastic results.

Your new debut EP, Mixed Feelings, is an exploration of multiple underground dance music genres. What is the main connecting thread / overarching theme of the project?

The essence of the EP is simply to introduce myself via the facets that interest me within the genres. The EP is essentially a condensed set of me. With the EP title, I wanted to convey that one cannot narrow oneself down to just one thing, both as a person and in their art / as an artist.

Where is your dream place/venue to play?

Kyle Richards' White Party.

Music Insider: Iiris Vesik (Night Tapes)

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Night Tapes (Max Doohan, Sam Richards and Iiris Vesik) is a London-based, genre-blending atmospheric dream pop band with haunting vocals by Iiris.

The band's inspiration came from both their lived experience in the world that they can see and touch, as well as the less tangible spiritual and metaphysical realm. 

The 'Perfect Kindness' EP has been mixed by Nathan Boddy (known for his work with PinkPantheress, James Blake, Mura Masa) and mastered by Matt Colton (noted for his work with Flying Lotus, Flume, and Brian Eno).

Their debut single "Forever" has already amassed over 5 million plays, while their music continues to garner support from various media outlets. Having signed to Nettwerk Music Group in 2022, Night Tapes also made their SXSW debut in 2023.

These are Iiris's reflections on songwriting and valuable tips for overcoming creative hurdles.

What experiences impact your songwriting and the emotional depth of your music?

I think that being a musician is somewhat of a mystical, mythical journey because so many things are out of your direct control. You're a part of a bigger wave than yourself. It's bigger than you. And you're bringing creations from a world unseen, from that big wave out into the real world and making something out of nothing.

And I feel very lucky to have writing by my side because I can describe what the fuck is happening to me. And I agree with the existentialists. When you have the power to describe what is happening to you, you can somewhat take your own experience into your own hands.

For me, that has helped to feel like I can turn the things that happen to me into something useful and that I can take control. No, not control…I can take responsibility over my own reality and spot some treasures in the underworld.

At times I feel like I'm free and on the right path. Carl Jung has said “the work is the expression of my inner development for commitment to the contents of the unconscious forms the man and produces his transformations”. But to be honest, I just trust the unknown because it's been really useful, effective and easy for me to create.

I love the scientific and I love the empirical. But when it comes to art, the work I do is between me and the source. And the more I've let go, the more I've trusted, the more I've been able to flow in synchronicity, meet the peeps that I need to meet. And at best, creation has felt like magic and a journey of individuation. So I do recommend.

Tips for finding your creativity on a challenging day.

I think one can't really be creative if the Maslow hierarchy of needs is missing. The bottom half my body needs nourishment and sunlight and eating and exercise and all that good stuff that I didn't think I used to need. I used to think that music is number one and everything else is secondary and let me tell you, that was a bit destructive. I do NOT recommend.

So on a tough day, I think that there's definitely phases to creation (and to life), and it's good to not mix them up together. It's like if you're resting, rest. If you're working, work. There's chaos, there's order. And it's good to start from order, because without order, there is no harvest. So having a plan, having a setup, having an environment that supports your creativity is necessary and that comes through order. You create those things for yourself. You set them up in order.

And then when you get there, that's when you can go into chaos because you can let loose, vomit out the ideas that you did, just like get the material out so you'd have material to work with.

And then when you got the material, then you can see like OOH, what shape is this? What is this? And then you can your analytical mind, your intellectual knife and start to sculpture the thing of your vision, of your dream, what you're thinking.

And then once again, you have to go into chaos to let go of the outcome, to have some surprise, to be open to the highest, best outcome. Because the thing that wants to come through you is already somewhere out there in the world, unseen. And you can just act as a tool (if you're into that sort of way of thinking, which I am, because it's easy).

And then when things go, a lot of the times it's because you just don't know what phase you're in. Like in creation, try to start chiseling with an intellectual knife of a thing that you don't have to chisel. You need to have the phases in the right order and you need to be able to know which phase you're in.

So sometimes you show up, you try to implement your order for your harvest but sometimes it's good to just ask like, maybe this is not the time. Maybe it's time for a little chaos. Maybe it's time for a little bit of task free time. Maybe it's time to slug out a little bit, to breathe in so you could breathe out.

So that would be my tip for finding some power to go on on a tough day of creation.

(Yeah, this is long).

shesaid.so LA Radio on Dublab: Heather LaRose

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For this month's shesaid.so LA radio at Dublab Elyn Kazarian's guest will be Heather LaRose - the youngest person to win a Songwriter Hall of Fame Award for 2023.

LaRose is a New York born and Los Angeles based alternative pop singer-songwriter who has been featured in Rolling Stone, Forbes, Billboard, iHeart Radio, Songtrust, and more. On guitar, LaRose is sponsored by Gibson and is a past winner of The Great American Song Contest.

Her powerful lyrics helped her carve out her name into the bedrock of the music industry. LaRose’s highly anticipated EP “Party Girl Tears” has already accrued over 3 million streams off the released singles, with multiple features in Rolling Stone, Billboard, and more media.

LaRose has supported The Killers, The 1975, Rachel Platten, Nickelodeon's Drake Bell, etc on tour. Additionally, she has performed at New York Fashion Week, Los Angeles Fashion Week, Sundance Film Festival. She has written for artists signed to Sony, Universal, and Columbia.

Also tune for Elyn’s music selections that will include the likes of PIAO, Brandy, Missy Elliott, Noname, Ama Lou and more.

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Artist Spotlight: Nonô

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We are excited to feature Nonô for this month’s Artist Spotlight. The London-based artist from Rio, Brazil, has been described by NME as "a rising talent ready to become your new favourite artist”.

Nonô has over 200 million streams and has been championed on BBC Radio 1, with notable press support from NME 100, CLASH and Line Of Best Fit. Her single 'Domingo' heated up the summer with her club mix of dance-pop and Brazilian vibes.

Can you share a memorable experience that has significantly influenced your music?

A memorable experience that definitely has shaped my music is going on tour supporting ‘Example’ in 2022. That experience of being on stage every day really taught me a lot about what kind of music I wanted to make and how I wanted to make people feel - because it's a such a high pace energy environment that I just wanted everyone to have fun. I wanted that feeling of the live shows to translate into my music or everything that I was creating.

So after the shows I knew exactly where I wanted to go with my music; how to turn up the BPM, or to make (my music) more electronic. I feel that my shows are my favourite part of doing music. So yeah, definitely going on tour was the most memorable experience that has influenced my music

What's the one piece of advice you wish you had received when you were just starting out as a singer and songwriter?

A piece of advice that I would give to emerging artists is something that I'm also trying to tell myself. It just gets a lot, you know, when you're creating every day, and then you're also having to create content every day. And besides the songs, the marketing the content, you have to stay positive.

So besides not giving up is try to tune out the noise and try not to compare your journey to other people. My whole life, I grew up reading biographies. And something that really hurt me was when I was comparing my journey to all these incredible artists that I had read about growing up. And when your journey isn't going exactly like theirs you start thinking that, Oh, I'm doing something wrong, or it's not going to happen. At least I do that.

I'm pretty sure there's other people out there that might feel the same way; comparing constantly comparing themselves with other people. So if I was to give an advice to anyone that is emerging, is to work hard and to follow their creative dreams. Don't compare yourself. You're on your own path, and everything happens when it’s supposed to happen. The opportunity will come you just have to be ready for it.

What’s the one piece of advice you wish you had received when you were just starting out as a singer and songwriter?

The off days are just as important as the days you’re working. If you don’t allow yourself time to relax then you will end up creating the same song or worse. You might even lose the love for the thing that made you wanna follow this journey.

Building a fanbase and getting noticed in the crowded music scene can be tough. What strategies have you found effective in connecting with your audience?

Playing live shows is the most effective way of connecting with my audience as it’s a real moment! Everybody is there to have a good time plus I can see how they react to songs and in those minutes, we are genuinely forming a connection and our own world.

If you could describe your sound in just three words, what would they be?

Free, Energetic and Vibrant.

What’s the most unexpected thing you’ve learned about yourself since stepping into the music spotlight

I always knew I was a perfectionist but I didn’t know the extent of how deranged I actually am. I will lose sleep over parts of an unfinished song or merch items that I don’t think are 100% right yet.

Describe your morning routine

if I was to describe my morning routine, it's very simple. Very simple. Very easy. Because I wake up in pain, usually because I'm not a morning person. Unfortunately, I'm very much a night person. I want to be a morning person. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate morning people, but I am not.

So I try to wake up at like eight.

I fail. Then I wake up at nine and I have a chocolate milk because I don't drink coffee. Then I start getting ready for the sessions or whatever schedule program that I have in that day.

I usually start by picking out an outfit. I just sit on the floor and contemplate my whole life for like half an hour. And then I choose an outfit. Colorful outfit, usually. Then I go brush my teeth, get my makeup on, do the hair, put on accessories, out the door, I go to the studio.

So a typical day would be going to the studio. I would wake up, have my chocolate milk, brush my teeth, get my makeup on, get the clothes that I'm wearing, colorful accessories, then out the door, run to tube or bus, go to the session, stay in the session write a banger from like eleven until 06:00 p.m..

Or eleven till 07:00 p.m.. Or twelve till six whatever the time that it takes to create a song or two, depending on what we're doing.

If your music was a color, what color would it be and why?

I think it would be bumblebee yellow as I’m always trying to emulate the vibrancy of Brazil in my music so I think yellow/ orange, quite solar tones are very fitting.

3 things you can’t live without in your bag

Walkers crisps, a jumper and my rock salt luck charm.

If you could choose a famous landmark to host the ultimate Nonô beach party, where would it be and why?

I would definitely choose Rio de Janeiro because I'm from Rio. I would choose Copacabana beach because I grew up there. It's a very famous landmark I think everybody that knows a little about Brazil knows about Copacabana. I would throw it in February or March because that's when the vibes in Brazil are at the highest point. Summer is over there so you know it's gonna be hot. And yeah, definitely Copacabana would be the place for the ultimate Nonô beach party!