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GRAMMY-Nominated Soul Artist Acantha Lang on Building a Sustainable Music Career

Acantha Lang is a New Orleans-born, London-based soul artist whose debut album Beautiful Dreams (2023) reached #3 on the Official UK Jazz & Blues Albums Chart and earned 5-star reviews from Echoes and Soul Bag Magazine (France).

A GRAMMY-nominated songwriter and 2022 Recording Academy member, she contributed to Robert Randolph & The Family Band’s Got Soul. Her music has since earned over 5 million streams worldwide, 1.55 million YouTube views, and 13 million+ video views through her acclaimed Standing On The Shoulders Of Soul Legends series.

Her singles have been featured on top Spotify playlists including All Funked Up and Best Funk Songs of 2023, with strong radio support from BBC Radio 2, BBC 6Music, Jazz FM, and KCRW. Her track “Grandma’s Hands” was selected for Jazz FM’s Breakfast Show and featured on BBC Radio 2’s A-List and Trevor Nelson’s Top Tunes of 2024.

She also appeared on Craig Charles’ Trunk of Funk Vol. 2 compilation. Acantha has appeared on CBS Saturday Morning and performed at major festivals and venues including SXSW, Melkweg (Amsterdam), Bizz’Art (Paris), Jazz Cafe (London), and The House of Blues and Blue Nile (New Orleans).

Her music has been championed by Craig Charles, Trevor Nelson, and Gilles Peterson, while influences such as Gladys Knight, Aretha Franklin, and Mavis Staples continue to shape her artistry. Beyond her original work, she actively celebrates the soul tradition through her tribute performances. She is currently working on her second album, due for release in 2026.

How did you first get your start in music?

My music career really started when I left New Orleans and moved to New York. I put together a Blues show in Harlem, and it was there that I truly found my voice and my love for blues and soul. Around that time, I was booked at Blues festivals in the Caribbean and Africa for some really big audiences. This was all a great experience for me as an up-and-coming singer.

Before launching your solo career, your songwriting was featured on a GRAMMY-nominated album and you were accepted into the Recording Academy’s 2022 member class. What has songwriting for others taught you about developing your own voice as an artist?

Yes, one of my songs ended up on Robert Randolph’s Got Soul album, which went on to be Grammy nominated. Robert is the frontman of Robert Randolph and the Family Band and one of the world’s most celebrated pedal steel guitarists. He had always loved a song I wrote in New York with a wonderful producer called Jimmy Bralower.

The song was originally called It’s Gonna Be Alright, but when Robert decided to record it for his album, we reworked the lyrics and production a bit, gave it a slightly different title, Gonna Be All Right, and it became the closing track. I later recorded my own version, which appears on my debut album Beautiful Dreams. My version of the song sounds like me and Robert’s version sounds like him. What I learned is that the artist will always make the song their own. They’ll transform it so it sounds like them, and that’s exactly how it should be.

What have you learned about networking in the music industry? How do you approach building authentic connections?

I believe that to be a successful artist, networking is crucial. It is about building relationships with the right people, showing up in spaces, reaching out, asking questions, and being open. All of that really makes a difference.

Your reputation and work ethic go hand in hand with those connections too, because you never know when someone you spoke to, or someone who has seen your work, might recommend you for an opportunity.

When it comes to building authentic connections, I try to keep it simple. I show up as myself. I listen and I stay curious.People can feel when you are genuine, and those are the connections that last. One simple conversation can turn into great opportunities and sometimes friendships.

For artists working toward that level of visibility, what does it really take to build a sustainable career in today’s music industry?

I think building a sustainable career in music today takes more than talent. You need persistence, patience, and a real understanding that this is a marathon, not a sprint. It takes consistency, showing up for yourself every day, and being willing to put in the work even when no one is watching. And let’s be real, you’re going to need money to get your project off the ground.

This can be very expensive. Unless you’re starting out with a lot of money or backed by a label with a big budget, you need to get familiar with fundraising, applying for grants, and working to cover all the costs that come with recording, releasing, and marketing your music. It takes time to get to a level of visibility and it takes time before a career in music can sustain itself. It can be challenging, but I believe it can be done. 

You’ve now crossed 3 million Spotify streams and appeared on BBC Radio 2, Jazz FM, and BBC 6Music’s A-List. For artists trying to reach radio and editorial platforms, what are your best tips to stand out in a saturated space?

I’m extremely proud of how my music is being received, but it didn’t happen overnight. I was fortunate that my debut single He Said/She Said was played on BBC 6Music by Craig Charles, but what I quickly learned is that most of the time you do need a radio plugger to get consistent radio play. In a saturated space, the best way to stand out is  creating the best work possible and staying true to myself. I never wanted to chase trends. I wanted to develop my own sound and make music that felt authentic. For me, it’s always been more important to do something uniquely mine than to blend into a crowded lane.

With 1.55 million YouTube views, over 104K TikTok followers and features on high-impact playlists, you’ve created a multi-platform presence. What’s worked best for growing your audience online without relying on viral trends?

On the streaming side, being featured on Spotify’s big editorial playlists isn’t something you can control, so I feel very grateful that some of my songs have landed on a few of them. One of my proudest moments was seeing He Said/She Said included on Spotify’s Best Funk Songs of 2023. Being featured on high-impact playlists has been an amazing way to introduce my music to new listeners.

What’s worked best for me is creating content for YouTube and TikTok that I genuinely enjoy making. I share soul music through tributes, stories, and performance clips, while also highlighting the artists, their journeys, and little-known facts about them. I love digging into the history and putting those stories together, and because it comes from a real place, people connect with it. It’s helped me find others who love soul music as much as I do and build a real sense of community.

You’ve built a loyal fanbase and garnered over 13 million video views with your Standing on the Shoulders of Soul Legends series. What inspired that project, and how did it help grow your community?

I started my Standing on the Shoulders of Soul Legends series during the Covid lockdown because I could not work and I still wanted to sing. At the time, a lot of artists were doing livestreams, but I wanted to do something a little different. I decided to pick a song by one of my favorite soul artists, perform it with my guitarist in my living room, and post it online.

The very first song I covered was Let Me Be The One You Need, as a tribute to Bill Withers after he passed away on March 30, 2020. People loved it, and the response was so encouraging that the next week I chose another soul legend to cover, and then another. There were so many songs I wanted to sing that it naturally turned into a weekly series.

Since starting the series, I’ve posted over 100 episodes on YouTube, covering artists like Gladys Knight, Al Green, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Etta James, and Otis Redding, just to name a few. Creating this series has been a reward in itself because I’m so passionate about soul music. But an added reward has been seeing new fans discover me through it, then go on to listen to my own music and become part of my journey.

As a woman in soul and funk today, what’s one lesson you’ve learned that you’d pass on to the next generation of artists trying to carve out their path?

Music will always evolve, but I think it’s important to go back to the source, study the pioneers and learn from them. One thing I’ve taken from the greats of soul and funk is that they didn’t need loads of riffs or vocal acrobatics.They relied on tone and storytelling to get their point across. For me, that has so much more impact than constantly showing off technical skills.

Who are three women in the industry who inspire you right now.

Mavis Staples, Carla Thomas, and Gladys Knight are three women who continue to inspire me. I’ve had the honor of meeting both Mavis and Carla in person, and their encouragement meant so much. I’ve seen Mavis perform several times, and she still has that deep soul that radiates and transforms the audience when you hear her sing. She has carried the torch for soul music for decades and remains a living example of its power.

I also recently met Carla Thomas, the Queen of Memphis Soul, and even performed with her. Her spirit and kindness were so genuine, and knowing she, along with Mavis, was part of historic moments like the legendary Wattstax concert in 1972, and is still out performing today, is awe-inspiring. Gladys Knight has always been one of my biggest inspirations. To me, she represents real soul and true longevity.


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Cami Bear is the Miami Pop Artist Behind Atlas Lens-Backed ‘matchacoldbrew’

Miami-based R&B/pop singer, songwriter and visual artist Cami Bear is carving out a space of her own in today’s pop landscape.

Fresh off the release of her bold new single matchacoldbrew, and its hyper-stylized 2000s fever-dream video, backed by Atlas Lens Co. (Everything Everywhere All at Once, The Batman), Cami is stepping into what she calls a “new era.” Fusing alt-pop, R&B, glitchy Y2K nostalgia and a touch of Latin flair, her sound is both playful and deeply personal, transforming regret into confidence and chaos into glamour.

With over 4M streams to date, collaborations with Gorgon City and Westend, and global radio support, Cami Bear is quickly proving herself as one of Miami’s most exciting new voices.

Atlas Lens has backed ‘Everything Everywhere All At Once and The Batman’ now they’re behind your 2000s fever dream. How did the partnership come about?

It came through a one-off artist submissions program that Atlas Lens was running in collaboration with LA native director XAMNIL. 

And once it came together what was the experience like working with Atlas Lens and bringing your vision to life?

It was surreal, honestly. Atlas Lens gave me access to gear I never thought I’d touch this early in my career, and it made the whole process feel so legit. I will forever be grateful for that experience and for everyone who was involved in bringing something so special to me to life. A dream! <3 

You refer to your song matchacoldbrew as ‘cnty’. What’s the story behind it?

This song basically wrote itself. I needed to channel whatever spiral I always go down into something more playful. This song came from a place of burnout due to not writing from an honest place. I’d been wanting to romanticize more of the real and darker narratives in my life that I know a lot of girls my age would be able to relate to through songwriting. It just so happened that the first angle I took was the morning after.

How has growing up in Miami shaped your artistic identity from the way you write, to how you perform, to how you move through the industry?

Miami holds a lot of magic, and luckily I’ve been able to channel that through my artistry. By now it’s clear the city has its own glossary, and you can hear a lot of that in my lyrics and brand voice.

My music is also heavily influenced by the mix of sounds I grew up on here, and I see it as a true product of that tension. It’s a pretty unserious city, and if you’ve been to my shows, you’ll see the direct correlation. My Miami roots shape so much of me, but I feel it most in the social element.

Like any big city, Miami makes you grow up quickly, and that’s played a big role in how I carry myself in the industry. Miami breeds a very specific kind of person. Growing up here not only toughened me up, but helped me tap into my soul and charisma. There’s a lot of characters here that have prepared me to deal with a lot of the different kinds of personalities you can come across working in an industry like this. 

You’ve collaborated with Gorgon City, hit 4M+ streams, and your tracks are getting played worldwide. What mindset helped you stay focused as things started to grow?

Remembering why I started doing this in the first place is always very grounding. It’s easy to get caught up in the noise or start chasing trends, but I’ve learned to come back to honesty. If it doesn’t feel like me I don’t do it. As long as I do that, I know I'm focused on the right things. 

Did you ever feel pressure to lean into Latin or the ‘Miami Sound’? How did you stay true to your sound?

Yes, I’ve always felt that pressure- especially coming from a Latin family and being a native speaker. I’ve caught a lot of backlash for not using my fluency more. At times I’ve been insecure about not leaning into it ‘fully,’ but that doesn’t mean I don’t already.

The culture is already woven into my music, just not in the most obvious or typical ways people might expect- it lives in my DNA, in my delivery, and overall in my energy. I definitely see myself exploring that path more in the near future, but I want to do it with intention and work hard to find the right messages and the right cultural approach so it feels true to me, to Cami Bear, and to where I come from.


And in terms of the Miami sound, I think that can mean so many different things. It’s not one genre - it’s the tension of all the influences here. I stayed true to my sound by letting those influences show up naturally in my work.

I see myself as a pioneer of this movement for my generation, helping emphasize this lane of Miami pop and giving it a voice. It’s about building something authentic that reflects the city’s magic without being boxed in. Staying true to my sound means blending my roots into it on my own terms.

What’s one thing about being a pop artist in Miami that people don’t understand until they’re living it?

One thing people don’t realize is how different the landscape is here compared to cities like LA or New York. Miami doesn’t really have an OG built-in infrastructure for pop, so you’re carving your own lane. That makes it harder sometimes, but it also gives you freedom to create something really fresh! You have to hustle harder to get noticed- especially when it comes to bookings, but in return you develop this very strong sense of identity.

What are you listening to at the moment?

So many things but this week: the new Jim Legxacy album, all of Dominic Fike’s discography, and that one minute video SZA posted on a spam account


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Six Questions with Sofia Kourtesis

Photo Credit: Dan Medhurst

Peruvian producer and DJ Sofia Kourtesis draws constant inspiration from her family. Her 2021 breakthrough single, La Perla, honored her late father, blending a flowing melody with voice recordings that capture her sense of longing for home from Berlin.

After remixing tracks for Caroline Polachek and Jungle, Kourtesis released her debut album. Madres in October 2023, dedicated to her mother and the neurosurgeon who performed life-saving cancer surgery on her.

The album features 10 tracks showcasing her emotive approach to electronic production and blends Sofia’s Peruvian roots and Berlin club influences, exploring both personal resilience and community.

Kourtesis answered six quick questions before her performance at Desert Air Festival.

If you had to describe your music using three words, what would they be

Playful, happy, and nostalgic. I aim to evoke those emotions and take listeners on a journey through sound.

What’s your best networking tip?

I believe in making genuine connections. Look people in the eye, engage in natural conversations, and be yourself. Focus on building authentic relationships with those who share your passions—it's all about creating bonds that matter.

What's your favorite/least favorite thing about making music?

My favorite part of making music is the freedom to express myself and connect with others through sound. However, there are moments that can be tough, like dealing with creative blocks or the pressures of the industry. Despite these challenges, I choose to focus on the joy and fulfillment that music brings me, as it's a dream I've always wanted to pursue.

3 things you can't live without in your bag

My passport, phone, and my Venlafaxine antidepressant pills. These essentials keep me connected and grounded, especially when traveling or managing daily life.

What’s your favorite way to unwind when you’re not making music?

There’s something liberating about stepping outside my routine and experiencing life in the moment.

What are you listening to at the moment?

Right now, I’m really into Floating Points, Caribou—who has been a great mentor to me—and Arca. Their unique sounds inspire me and keep my creativity flowing.


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Red Bull Records' Morgan on Her Newest Project 'Emotional Gangster'

Morgan is one of the UK’s most exciting rising stars in Pop and R&B, with over 80 million combined streams, a dedicated online following, and a new label home at Red Bull Records. Her forthcoming project, titled Emotional Gangster, features a collaboration with dancehall heavyweight Byron Messia.

Morgan's journey started young—she began performing at just three years old, and by 18, she was touring the world as a vocalist for Rudimental. Her solo career took off with the release of ‘My Year,’ a sparkling pop debut, followed by the hit collaboration ‘Mulholland Drive’ with Ebenezer, which earned over 10 million streams. Her subsequent EP Alien was packed with golden-era pop influences and featured collaborations with Anne-Marie, Cadenza, Dyo, Preditah, and Rudimental.

At 17, she wrote ‘ADCT,’ which later climbed to the top of both TikTok Trending Sounds and the UK Top 50, racking up over 25 million streams. Morgan has also co-written and featured on major tracks like Rudimental & Digga D’s ‘Be the One’ and Sigma’s ‘Adrenaline Rush,’ which sampled Bittersweet Symphony. Recently, she’s expanded her reach by writing for top K-pop artists like NCT’s Jaehyun and will feature on Purple Disco Machine’s upcoming album PARADISE later this year.

Now, with two sold-out London headline shows under her belt and her first UK headline tour set to kick off at the end of the year, Morgan is one of the most emerging talents in the scene. Her latest single, ‘Wheel Up,’ a collaboration with Jamaican superstar Byron Messia, dropped on 25th September via her upcoming sophomore EP Emotional Gangster, out on 25th October.

In this Q&A, Morgan opens up about her new single “Wheel Up”, working with Byron Messia, and what fans can expect from her highly anticipated EP.

Your new EP Emotional Gangster is dropping soon. What is the story/inspiration behind it?

I'm so excited for this EP to drop - it's been a minute since I dropped my own music. The story behind it is pretty simple. Firstly, a lot of people, especially my friends, think that I am this super tough person - I have an extremely tough exterior (it might be the Aries in me - I have a lot of fire). However, I am hugely emotional and sensitive at heart. Secondly, I wanted to create a project that incorporates both sides of my personality whilst also highlighting the versatility in my sound and songwriting. I absolutely hate being put in a box.

“Wheel Up” feels like an homage to Jamaican sound system culture, but also taps into the UK rave scene. How do these two worlds connect for you, and where do you fit in?

I'm half Jamaican and  half British so the connection is plain and simple. I'm a proud product of dual heritage and you can hear those influences in my music. 

What is your top networking tip for connecting with the right people in music e.g. a manager or a record label?

Never rush into a working relationship. Take your time sussing people out and ensuring they have the best possible intentions. I built a relationship with my manager for at least a year before entering a business relationship with her. 

Tips for finding your creativity on a tough day

A producer once told me to keep on creating even when I feel creatively blocked as it helps you get all the s*** out - that stuck with me. I try to keep writing even if I'm not feeling inspired. Even if a session isn't how I have wanted it to go, I've still learnt something that day. 

What advice would you give to artists that are just starting out?

Perseverance and shamelessness are key! 

3 things you can't live without in your bag

You will never see me without a lip gloss or lip liner - it's my makeup staple. I always need my phone - especially when I am in sessions, my notes section is literally where you will find all my song ideas and lyrics. Lastly, my car keys - I literally drive everywhere and always seem to be in my car (it's become a running joke with my team... even every zoom meeting involves me in or next to my car).


Morgan will go on a tour this November, headlining five shows across the UK, including a date at London’s iconic Jazz Cafe. The dates are as follows and tickets are available HERE:

November 25: Glasgow @ The Poetry Club

November 26: Manchester @ YES

November 28: London @ Jazz Café

November 30: Birmingham @ The Sunflower Lounge

December 1: Bristol @ The Louisiana

The Aces' Alisa Ramirez on Music, Identity, and Their Latest Album

Indie-pop quartet The Aces released their highly-anticipated third studio album, I’ve Loved You For So Long, back in June. Spanning eleven tracks, the record sees the band reflect on their childhood and unpack how their early experiences with closeted love and religious trauma have influenced their relationships, mental health, and identity in the present.

Finding inspiration in the likes of The Cranberries and LCD Soundsystem, The Aces experimented with new styles while remaining authentic to their roots. The early singles caught the attention of tastemakers like KCRW, BBC Radio 1, and KROQ, to name a few, racking up over 12 million streams ahead of today’s release. The band is currently on a global tour supporting their album.

We are thrilled to have Alisa Ramirez from The Aces share invaluable advice and insights for industry newcomers

Hey, what's up, shesaid.so this is Alisa from the Aces, and I'm going to be answering some of your questions today.

What were some of the musical influences that inspired the sound of your latest record?

I'd say a big musical influence for this record was late 80s early 90s Shoegaze. And, kind of the end of New Wave as well as the beginning of Grunge. I feel that was a big thing for us. This record is largely about our teenage years and our youth and how experiences from our teenhood affect our adulthood. So it was very much about timing and kind of leaning into sounds that were really nostalgic to paint the pictures of the past and leaning into sounds that were really futuristic and really modern to paint the stories of our adulthood and our current moment. So I'd say timing and big eras of music - past and present - were really influential for the sound.

How do you overcome creative blocks?

I think having a creative block is really tough, but the best thing for me is just not trying to “beat it over the head”, you know? Just sitting at my studio desk, hoping something comes out. It's kind of a two-way street. If you're showing up to create something, and the Muses aren't showing up, then okay, it's not gonna happen. I think sometimes it just comes to you and it happens. But if you're going through a period where you just feel like you can't get it out or there's nothing inspiring, then I would just say take a break. Go live your life. Go read books, go to museums, explore, go out and meet new people. Just try to just live your life and find inspiration through everyday things and new experiences. That's what I always do. Seems to work.

What’s your top advice for young individuals wanting to become musicians?

I'd say just go for it. It's a lot of work practice. But if you love it, it won't feel like work. Just practice, practice, practice, build your audience, don't take no for an answer and just keep getting better at songwriting and keep getting better at whatever instrument you play. Keep chasing creativity, keep chasing inspiration.

Do you have any pre-show rituals?

Yeah, we do we always huddle up and do like a little mantra, kind of a prayer to the universe, kind of tap in and, and just, you know, ask to have a good show. None of us are very religious, but it's always a good feeling to kind of huddle up and combine our collective energy to put on the best performance we can.

If you could travel back in time to any musical era, which one would it be?

I would probably travel back to the 60s as it was a really exciting time. It was the first time that people were going electric. It was the first time people were talking about sex and mental health in a more forward way. It wasn't this kind of subliminal thing, it was more in your face. It just felt like the first time that music started to get really exciting and have a rebellious element to it, you know what I mean? And not just be kind of centred around like religion and social norms.

Okay, well, those are my answers. Have a good one!


The Aces Third Studio Album I’ve Loved You For So Long is out on Red Bull Records.

Stream The Album Here.

Artist Spotlight #7 : Bea Anderson

Bea’s earliest experience of music came as a three-year-old when her Mum placed her in front of an audience and asked her to sing. As she shares here, her musical journey since then has really formed itself as an extension of her development as a person. Her interest in timeless sounds and music with soul has guided her releases and collaborations, prioritising ‘authentic over current’. With her first release on 2022, ‘Mirror, Mirror’, landing on the BBC Radio 1Xtra playlist she looks ahead to her next single ‘Pieces’ and how she’d like to see the industry develop.

Bea Anderson

shesaid.so: Tell us more about your artist journey and how your sound has developed to where it is today?

BA: As strange as it sounds, I feel so far into my journey — yet it’s only just starting! It’s taken years of cultivation/experimentation to get to this sound so I am super excited about how I have been received. Guitar has always been key to my songwriting, hence why it’s usually the main instrument in my songs thus far. My EP was quite guitar based, but more so because I wanted to show the world how I make music and where it’s derived from. Moving onto my releases for this year however, everything is much more production based, and really shows my artistic influences.

shesaid.so: There are some iconic artists and creators who have inspired and influenced you (including Lauryn Hill, Solange, H.E.R). In your opinion, what sets artists like these apart?

BA:

“Timelessness! You could listen to these albums YEARS from today and they’d still be relevant, fresh and exciting. That same concept is literally what I strive to be, authentic over current, and timeless.”

shesaid.so: You had an exciting start to 2022 with lots of support for your beautiful record, Mirror Mirror. What did that mean to you?

BA: The support meant everything! I was quite nervous releasing Mirror Mirror as it was such a stand out track and not too current. I really wasn’t sure how it would be received, however, seeing how people interacted with the song was so heartwarming and a reminder to always stay true to myself and my music.

shesaid.so: ‘Pieces’ is next up! What can you tell us about the writing process of that song?

BA: So I started writing pieces in a virtual session. The producer, Jarom S’ua (US based), played the beginning of this beat and I literally fell in love with the tune over zoom! I wrote the first verse and chorus in half an hour and completed the song in a few days. That doesn’t always happen with music, but when it does it’s like absolute magic.

shesaid.so: shesaid.so is a community guided by intersectionality. In your opinion, how could the music industry do better in terms of inclusivity?

BA: I think there are SO many female music producers and beat makers of multiple genres, which is absolutely beautiful. It would be great to see those names as the lead producers of major artists, giving them the same amount of exposure as male producers in their field.

shesaid.so: Has community played a role in your evolution as a creative?

BA: Most definitely. Community plays a huge part in my why. My aim is to be a role model for young women and minorities to look up to and aspire to be like — encouraging them to dream big, regardless of their upbringing or surroundings.

shesaid.so: And finally, could you share three bullet-point top tips for artists just starting out? What would you have loved to hear?

- Find yourself first and then allow your music to be an extension of that.

- Your journey is separate to everyone else’s, stay focused on yours.

- And, take your time, don’t rush baby!

Where you can find Bea Anderson:

Spotify // Apple Music // YouTube // SoundCloud

Instagram // TikTok // Twitter

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Artist Spotlight #5: MILCK

Winding back five years, as tensions were brewing in the U.S., MILCK performed her song “Quiet”, surrounded by an acapella of other women. Such a personal message became the words many women needed at that time, “I can’t keep quiet”, and the song became an unofficial anthem of the movement. Now in the middle of writing two albums, we catch up with the artist on her approach to songwriting, staying free as a creative, and making the process more important than the outcome.

Tell us more about your artist journey and how your sound has developed to where it is today?

Music has always been a form of truth telling for me — As a child, songwriting was a safe place for me to express my desires, dissents, and delights about life. To this day, songwriting continues to be my favorite way of processing the more complex and challenging parts of life. I love how music helps me alchemize the anxieties of living into something sonically cathartic and hopeful.

I have always been able to hear melodies in everything- from the pitch of the coffee grinder to the rhythms that the closing car doors in the grocery store parking lot simulate. Sounds in the natural world can spur melodic or rhythmic ideas. Paired with intentional musical instruments, melodies and chunks of lyrics flow into my mind. Over the years I have learned to collect these ideas with as much diligence as possible. What I hear is very eclectic; I have a lot of different moods and energies that I can write in, so I have learned to find creative ways of honoring all my different sides, regardless of a capitalist market that desires for a definable style. Currently I’m writing two different albums- one is more gritty and cinematic, while the other is more organic and minimal. As I grow as an artist, I have learned to be as free as possible in the creation, while also being as intentional during the editing process. I understand the difference of phases, and have empowered myself with my own rituals that empower my unique flow.

Who are some of the key artists and creators who have inspired or influenced you?

Tori Amos

Glennon Doyle

Lao Tzu

John Lennon

Yoko Ono

Nina Simone

Audre Lorde

Dan Wilson

Kate Bush

Yumi Sakugawa

We’re talking to you on the 5 year anniversary of “Quiet”, which became the unofficial anthem of the women’s march in 2017. How did it feel to have written something which empowered and moved so many women during this great moment of protest?

As someone who feels quite a bit of anxiety and worry, this viral moment of “Quiet” was the most divine reminder for me to trust: To trust that my story is enough. To trust my inner voice that whispers to me. To trust that I’m not alone in my obstacles as a survivor, Asian human, and woman.

I also learned that when I mix self-healing with intentional storytelling, I can share in the healing with quite literally the world. Being able to witness something that my cowriter Adrianne Gonzalez and I created become something so deeply integrated into our culture’s yearning for healing has forever deepened my respect for the power of songs.

For a while, the high of being able to connect so deeply with people all over the globe also warped my standards for my other songs. The intense goal of writing more songs to become cultural anthems did freeze me up for a bit, no matter how much I consciously told myself to avoid that desire. I had to learn to go gentle on myself, and to remember that what truly was the gift was the beautiful process of honestly healing myself through the song. I’ve adjusted the goal post from “write global anthem to heal women” to “write song to heal self”, and it feels MUCH BETTER. Lol.

Now, I do my best to focus on the process, rather than the outcome.

What do you see the role of art being when it comes to politics and the ability to impact the world we live in?

In a capitalist driven culture that feeds on human beings becoming commodified worker bees for the benefit of a select few elite, I think art is a gorgeous practice for questioning the existing paradigm. Art is a crucial tool that human beings use to remind ourselves of our wildness and our worthiness. Art is a powerful reminder of our yearning to feel loved and free. Art is a powerful reminder of how unique we each are, while being so similar to each other at the same time.

In Tori Amos’s book Resistance, she reflects on how a radio DJ showed her a list of forbidden songs during the period of crisis after 9/11. Songs that had lyrics that could trigger people, like airplanes, etc. One of the songs that was banned from radio playlists was “Imagine” by John Lennon and Yoko Ono! Tori Amos speculates that the song was banned for being too powerful in its reminder for a possibility of peace during a time that the states was yearning to go to war.

Art has the power to open people’s hearts, which then more effectively opens people’s minds, priming large populations of people to act. Studies have shown that storytelling increases the amount of serotonin in the brain, which increases the likelihood for a human to take action. How amazing is that? Art sparks movements. Activists provide the fuel to keep the movements sustainable.

You’ve collaborated with many brilliant creatives. Amanda Gorman and Jordin Sparks to name a couple. In your opinion, what defines a strong musical collaboration?

A strong musical collaboration is a conjoining of artists who have had a lot of intentional practice with listening to and vocalizing their intuitions and instincts.

The more clear and honest we can each be with ourselves, the more clear and genuine a collaboration can be.

Amanda Gorman and Jordin Sparks are both very strong and intelligent women who have harnessed their ability to listen to their own instincts, which made it a joy to cocreate with them.

What can we expect from your forthcoming album?

I am learning to slow down to listen to and trust my instincts more and more, so I’ve been able to grow as a producer myself. As I grow as a producer, I have leaned into my curiosity with sonic textures. You’ll notice this album has a heightened level of sonic range, allowing my sense of angst and grittiness to cathartically unleash.

shesaid.so is a community guided by intersectionality. In your opinion, how could the music industry do better in terms of inclusivity?

“SLOW DOWN.”

When we rush, we often practice what I call “rushist” practices… Efficiency does not prioritize the nuances of humanity, so we need to slow down to update our contact lists. Despite the perceived financial “cost”… rather than looking at slower production schedules as you search for and train more BIPOC employees, I encourage all of us to look at it as a financial “investment” in creating more holistic and representative community at work.

You can learn more about MILCK through her Instagram @milckmusic and her website.